Friday, July 30, 2010

More news from the granola chewing sect. . .

I get so tired of these touchy feely, do gooders coming up with their passive positive reward bullshit. These are the same people you see downtown with kids that are running around like banchees not doing anything their parents tell them to do and disturbing the peace of everyone in the surrounding area. Fuck these sherpa hat wearing, granola chewing, uber groovy clueless morons.

Dogs are fucking dogs. They understand domination. That doesn't mean you gotta be mean to them, it simply means that they have to understand that YOU are in charge, not them. . . . exactly the way kids have to understand things.
What's the best way to get a dog to understand that? With an older dog, as soon as they get aggressive toward you, knock em on their ass, and pin them to the ground with your hand firmly around their throat. Get right down in their face, growl like a mad fucking hillbilly dog and dare them to do it again.
I've had and trained four dogs in my adult life. Every one of them has been well behaved. I could take them into a crowd or have them out in the woods and they would do exactly what I wanted them to do. More important, they have been the happiest and most gentle dogs in the world. I've had my dogs in all sorts of situations and they have never once showed any signs of aggression toward any human being. They have been very loyal to me and my children. All were the dogs that everybody comes up to and immediately fall in love with. The biggest of them all was at various times nick named "the feel good dog" and "sunshine" by people who I hung out with.

Dog Training: Animal Experts Debunk the Alpha-Dog Myth
By JENINNE LEE-ST. JOHN Jeninne Lee-st. John – Fri Jul 30, 7:20 am ET

Dogs are descended from wolves. Wolves live in hierarchical packs in which the aggressive alpha male rules over everyone else. Therefore, humans need to dominate their pet dogs to get them to behave.

This logic has dominated the canine-rearing conversation for more than five years, thanks mostly to National Geographic's award-winning show, Dog Whisperer with Cesar Millan.

"For five years?!" I've been raising dogs for almost 40 yrs and that's the way I've always done it.

But many experts say Millan's philosophy is based on now-debunked animal studies and that some of his techniques - most famously the alpha roll, in which he pins a dog on its back and holds it by the throat - are downright cruel.

"Alpha roll" that's a good name for it. It works well.
Cruel? Awwww, you must be a panty waisted pussy faced granola chewer. How sad. I feel your pitifulness.

Rival trainer Victoria Stilwell has launched a competitive assault on Dog Whisperer by starring on Animal Planet's It's Me or the Dog and by spreading her system of positive-reinforcement training virtually and with troops on the ground: this June she launched a podcast (available on and iTunes) and franchised her methods to a first batch of 20 dog trainers in the U.S., the U.K., Italy and Greece. She uses positivity as a counterpoint to dominance theory and reserves her aggression for the poorly behaving humans.

Bring on your positively reinforced pitiful excuse for a canine. I'll put my "alpha rolled" dog against it in all categories of what people want in a pet. . . behavior, friendliness, whatever you'd like except that manbsy pansy dog show bullshit.

These are the people who buy expensive doggie pastries and tie bandanas around their dog's necks. Every time I see a dog so humiliated I just want to take the bandana off the poor dog and strangle the dumb fuck brightlighter with it. . . or run them over with their Jeep.

Stay there in your cities. We don't want your barking dogs or your ill-mannered kids polluting our environment.


Herbert Weaver said...

I guess that dog trainer chick's trying to pick a fight with the Dog Whisperer just to get some publicity for her show. I smell BS!

Dogs are born with pack roles hard-wired in them - if the pack needs sentries, alphas, babysitters, whatever, they'll be born - many times different types in the same litters. So if you have a natural born alpha you need to rewire that behavior before he grows up and starts trying to call the shots. It's what they used to call common fucking sense! Hopefully, someone will end up suing that chick if they get half their face bit off by their own dog.

(Weird story: a few years back, we had a small dog that had dominance/hierarchy issues with our kid. He used to piss on our son's bed and mark in his room to try and be boss. We did the alpha roll but it didn't work so good. Eventually, we pinned the dog down outside and had our 3-year-old pee on him! Totally worked.)

SagaciousHillbilly said...

BWAAAHAHAHA! Great story Herb! Totally believable. You gotta visualize yourself in a pack when you deal with a dog. Dogs, cats and other domesticated animals are not smart enough to really be "members of the family." I certainly consider mine to be and treat them as such, but the reality is they are just following their pack instincts.
I wouldn't know the dog whisperer from the douche bag trainer chick if they walk in my house.

Herbert Weaver said...

Anyone who thinks it's cruel to dominate your dog needs to know how much crueler it is NOT to. When owners treat dogs like babies, the owner's behavior comes over as submissive to the dog and puts stress on them because most dogs are not alphas and don't want to be in charge. There's the irony. A few years back, we got a French Mastiff puppy. We raised him fine - totally non-aggressive, could walk off-leash and stay right by you, used to ignore all the neurotic barking neighbors' dogs... but every other puppy in his litter grew up aggressive and twitchy because the owners were dumbasses. Like when we all met up at the park for a "dog family reunion", ours was pretty much the only one who could run around and play - the rest were all on leashes or shut in their cars because the owners were so scared of them biting. Stupid, stupid, stupid!

Christiaan said...

I have a hard headed Catahoula Leopard dog and the ONLY way I could get him to obey was by establishing dominance. Not by hitting (besides the occasional swat on the ass to get his attention) but by flipping him on his back and growling, etc. Positive reinforcement would have ended in disaster.